Mulligan Stew Podcast

EP 144 | David Fishof/Rock Camp


Summer camp meets Spinal Tap as we journey to Rock’ n’ Roll Fantasy Camp, where dreamers from across America and around the world gather to shred with their heroes – and learn to rock like the legends.

Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp is an institution and cultural phenomenon that has been going on in Los Angeles, New York, and other cities since 1996. The  Camp is the brainchild of music producer David Fishof.

It boasts a jaw-dropping array of rock star “counselors” that include Roger DaltreyAlice CooperPaul Stanley and Gene SimmonsNancy WilsonJoe PerryJeff BeckSlash, and countless other rock legends.

Now comes The Documentary 


Directed and produced by Doug Blush, co-directed and edited by Renee Barron

Rock Camp, The Movie takes us back more than four decades to the beginnings Fishof’s career as a sports agency and eventually an entertainment executive and music producer. Fishof founded Rock’ n’ Roll Fantasy Camp, which has been making dream comes true for more than 25 years. The camp brings together musicians from all walks of life for an unforgettable experience with legendary rock stars. These musicians teach, inspire, and jam with the campers over four days, concluding with a life performance at a famed venue.

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EP 143 | Kris Kristofferson


Kris Kristofferson has retired.

What a road he walked in his lifetime.

Hung around Johnny Cash’s studio as the janitor and pitched him multiple songs ((he talks about it here)

Helped to start the songwriting trend in Nashville that brought respectability to Country Music (he talks about it here)

Joined Waylon, Willie, and Johnny to form The Highwaymen.

Leaves behind a really good film career. From A Star is Born to Blade ( (he talks about it here)

Awarded a Rhodes’ Scholarship. Was a helicopter pilot in the Army. ((he talks about it here)

When Kris left the Army to be a songwriter he was disowned by his family.

He leaves behind a wonderful rainbow of songs and memories of Janis Joplin, Johnny Cash, Shooter Jennings, the Cash film I walk the Line, John Prine, Dylan. All of which he talks about here.

This interview took place backstage at the 2006 Calgary Folk Festival.

It was a quickly arranged media press conference and the only other person I knew was Tom Coxworth from CKUA. I tried to include as many questions as I could hear on my recorder.

His greatest accomplishment?  Being a Father to 8 children.

Kris has asked that he would like the first three lines of Leonard Cohen’s Bird on a Wire to be on his tombstone


Like a bird on the wire
Like a drunk in a midnight choir
I have tried in my way to be free


Cheers to KK.


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EP 142 | Celebration of Black Cinema – Shawn Edwards


Delroy Lindo, John Legend, Leslie Odom Jr. Tessa Thompson; Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Kingsley Ben-Adir, Eli Goree and Aldis Hodge; and Andra Day.  and more were recognized on  Tuesday in LA at the 3rd annual Celebration of Black

Cinema, in partnership with Critics Choice Assn.

“The Critics Choice Association is thrilled to have the opportunity to recognize the work of these extraordinary artists in a year where the intersection of art and activism has never been more necessary,” executive producer Shawn Edwards said.  “Each of our honorees personifies the greatness of Black cinema in 2020.”


Our guest this week Shawn Edwards from Fox4 Kansas City is the co-founder of this celebration, the Executive producer and I’m proud to say a  friend.  Enjoy!!

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EP 141 | k.d.lang from the Archives


From the Archives – k.d. lang

Is it possible there are music fans who do not know who K.D. is?

k.d. Lang was born in the town of Consort, Alta. Kathryn Dawn grew up listening to the wild variety of music being played by CKUA Radio. She released her debut album in Canada in the early 1980s. Won the most promising female artist Juno in 1985 (which we talk about) In 1986, k.d. broke into the American country music scene with Angel with a Lariat. The following year, she had her first country hit, a duet with Roy Orbison.   Then came a wonderful change in direction and a huge pop  hit in 1992 with “Constant Craving.” Since then, she has recorded numerous albums, including her 2002 collaboration with Tony Bennett, A Wonderful World.

She won Grammys for Crying (89)  Absolute Torch and Twang (90) Miss Chatelaine (94) and Wonderful World with Tony Bennett (2004)

k.d. was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame in 2013.  We talked just as her  2016 collaboration album case/lang/veirs was released.


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EP 140 | Sam Pollard MLK / FBI


MLK/FBI is an essential expose of the surveillance and harassment of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

 Rev King was called by the FBI  “the most dangerous” Black person in America” The expose was undertaken by J. Edgar Hoover and the U.S. government.  The film is based on newly discovered and declassified files, as well as revelatory restored footage. The documentary explores the government’s history of targeting Black activists. Directed by Emmy® Award-winner and Oscar®-nominee Sam Pollard, MLK/FBI recounts a tragic story with searing connections to our current moment.  Remarkably, this story from the mid-60’s civil rights conflict has relevance in our headlines today.

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EP 139 | MLK / Art Bergmann


What a Time.

Covid19. Political Balance of Power

Friday was the Birthday of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Monday is/was Martin Luther King Day in America.

At the same time, punk pioneer Art Bergmann discovers he’s an inductee for The Order of Canada.


This week on the Mulligan Stew Podcast we celebrate both.


Sam Pollard is a well-respected editor and film director. He’s been part of Spike Lee’s films having edited Mo Better Blues, Clockers, etc.

When he read that the FBI files on Martin Luther King Jr were being unsealed he realized he had the subject of his next documentary.

While Dr. King was talking and walking for civil rights in the USA the FBI, lead by J Edgar Hoover, was spying on Dr. King. They were looking for any information that would discredit his legacy. As Dr. King won the Nobel Peace Prize he was being labeled “the most dangerous negro in America” by the FBI.

It’s possible his verbal opposition to the Viet Nam War may have led directly to his assassination.

To recognize Dr. Kings Birthday and National Day we’ve included just a couple of minutes of Sam Pollard’s commentary. The complete interview will be posted next week.

Art Bergmann is a Canadian punk pioneer. His bands and songs were pointed, angry, and loud.

But what he was railing against were First Nations rights, aboriginal education, and health. Police misconduct. Politics. Organized Religion. Governments of all stripe.

As the Order of Canada press release noted “for his indelible contributions to the Canadian punk music scene and for his thought-provoking discourse on social, gender and racial inequalities”

Art hasn’t slowed down either.

His new album Late Stage Empire Dementia is about to be released. We’ll play two tracks plus Bound for Vegas.

Ladies and Gents, we are thrilled to present – Art Bergmann.  Order of Canada Inductee.

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EP 138 | Chef David Hawksworth


Chef David Hawksworth has released his first cookbook.  Hawksworth. The CookBook

Yes, it has incredible recipes but the stories of places and kitchens, victories, and defeats run throughout the pages.

It’s a great read. It was/is an amazing life.

David grew up on Canada’s West Coast but hit the road teaching himself how to cook (never a good move)

In London, David worked for the legendary Marco Pierre White (who trained Gordon Ramsay,   Mario Batali, and Shannon Bennett).  After nine years in London, Hawksworth decided if he wanted to see 40 and realize the dream of his own restaurant he would have to return to Vancouver.

Finally in 2011, after many many months of planning, David opened Hawksworth. It was an immediate hit and named restaurant of the year in 2012 by Maclean’s magazine, and consistently ranked as one of the best in the country. David and his team also opened  Nightingale in 2016 in Coal Harbour, and two Bel Café locations, plus a catering arm.

This podcast has a lot of his life story included but keep in mind, he’s still writing new chapters.

This interview and book are not really about that he’s doing all these amazing things, it’s about HOW he did it – WHY he did it – and answers the question – at what price?

He was very well served by adding Chef Stephanie Noel and Journalist Jacob Richler to his team. Well done you two.

At one point we talk about chefs and cookbooks that influenced him. Then we talk about all the future chefs who will be influenced by this book. We welcome  David Hawksworth and his first cookbook.  HAWKSWORTH. The Cookbook

EP 137 | A dozen interview guests who all made the CKUA Top 100


There are a few times over the path of a year that shows create themselves.

This is one of those shows and it was perfect for the podcast.

Our guests leave us with  comments about how their songs got written and how albums got made.  How they survived Covid19 lockdowns, the loss of stages and tour dates, the JOY of staying home and rediscovering family life.  Statements were taken from various interviews over a wild and dark 2020.

These were many of the albums that listeners repeatedly told us got them  through a lost and lonely year.

Every one of these artists made the CKUA Radio Top 100 album list and one of them – Frazey Ford – was the #1 album of the year. (most spins over the year)

Frazey Ford (Vancouver)

Margo Price (Nashville)

William Prince (Winnipeg)

Ron Sexsmith (outside Toronto)

Roy Forbes  (North Vancouver)

Andy Shauf (Toronto)

Mike Plume (Edmonton)

Corb Lund (rural Alberta)

Nathaniel Rateliff (Denver, I think)

Bahamas  (Halifax)

Elvis Costello (Vancouver Island)

Tami Neilson (Auckland NZ) 


Happy New Year – all of Y’ALL

EP 136 | Christmas In The Round 2020


Christmas is all about traditions.

Handed down from generation to generation.

The December 19th edition of the Mulligan Stew Podcast is all about traditions.

In the late ’70s at CBC Radio in Vancouver producer, Susan Englebert created a holiday show called Christmas Jam

Singer/Songwriters sitting around a studio – playing songs and telling tales.

We lost Susan Englebert oi Cancer and really this show is meant as a tribute to her.

Flip the calendar to 2020 and you’ll find – in the studio – two of the original “jammers.”

Shari Ulrich and TDMulligan. With Barney Bentall. Bill Henderson and Murray McLauchlan.

Each with their own career. Each friends with the other.

Barney and Shari on Bowen Island – just outside Vancouver

Bill Henderson – on Salt Spring Island – outside Victoria

And Murray McLauchlan in Toronto.

Please join us for Christmas in the Round Year 4

EP 135 | Alan Doyle


Hello Friends…

Thank you for subscribing to Spotify or Google Play or Apple Podcasts.

Then the Podcast comes to you automatically. Like heartburn after a hotdog.

The guest this week is a delightful man Alan Doyle.

I give him a bit stick by reminding him that he’s been called “beloved” in some articles.

We’ve been friends a long time which is tough to do because he’s in the Maritimes in the very far East and I’ve always been on the West Coast

So maybe we see each other once/twice a year.

Now that he’s not touring for a while he’s turned his considerable skills to writing another book.

His third is called All Together Now (A Newfoundlander’s Light Tales for Heavy Times)


The tales come from his imaginary corner stool in his local bar – The Duke.

On the set of Robin Hood. The Russell Crowe film.  Conversation with his son Henry in the car. (I’ll play the role of Henry, he’ll play Alan Doyle)

His strong connection to his Maritime fans in Alberta.

Alan truly misses “the road”.  Lots of stories there.

The man is a natural-born story-teller.  Come along, you’ll see.


Here’s the complete interview with the beloved Alan Doyle